While financial advisors and their clients often focus on creating a succesful retirement income plan, a successful, meaningful retirement goes well beyond dollars and cents. In this episode, we dive into the deeper side of the retirement transition and why many high-performing professionals (including financial advisors) underestimate the psychological shift that comes with leaving a decades-long career.
Michael Kay is a retired financial advisor and a current life coach and author, and joins the show today to share the personal challenges he faced transitioning from advisory firm owner to retiree. Listen in to learn practical exercises and questions that financial advisors can use to help clients prepare for life beyond their careers. You’ll hear how to help retirees design what their weeks will actually look like, how to think through changes in social structures after leaving the workplace, and how finding new ways to make a meaningful impact can create purpose in retirement.
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At some point, firm founders often find that their time is divided between attracting new clients and serving current ones (and running their business). This episode explores how it's possible to delegate technical work to a centralized planning team, segment clients by revenue, and leverage asynchronous communication tools to create client touchpoints while devoting significant time to closing new clients.
Jake Falcon, founder of Falcon Wealth Advisors, has built a $1 billion advisory firm for nearly 900 client households in part by focusing on his strengths as a 'rainmaker' bringing in new clients while stepping back from day-to-day planning analyses and regular client meetings. In this episode, Jake shares how abandoning scripts and prioritizing authentic connections transformed his business development. He also discusses how he's using Instagram to meet potential clients 'where they are' and demonstrate his authentic personality, why he invests client assets directly into stocks and bonds instead of mutual funds and ETFs, and how he hopes that bringing in direct business development hires will help his firm grow well into the future.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/484
What does it take to close a high-net-worth client in the very first meeting? For Erin Botsford, the answer is for an advisor to position themselves as a risk expert and to create a sense of urgency to act in the prospects' minds.
Erin is the founder of The Advisor Authority, and has developed a step-by-step formula for advisors to close more upmarket clients faster. She joins the show today to share how advisors can create positive first impressions by creating a "founders video", help prospects recognize their potential risk exposures in estate planning and insurance, and create urgency naturally. Listen in to also hear Erin's insights on setting effective fee structures as well as how founders can strategically extract themselves from every client case and ultimately scale their firms more effectively.
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What if just the 10 'right' people seeing your content could grow your firm faster than 10,000 random viewers? Growing an advisory firm doesn’t always require reaching the largest audience. In many cases, the right audience—clearly defined and intentionally engaged—can be far more powerful than broad visibility.
Justin Brownlee has built a $500 million RIA serving just 75 households by targeting a specific niche and using LinkedIn with intention. In this episode, we break down how he created focused blog and podcast content for his ideal target client, strategically built a LinkedIn network inside target companies, and prioritized quality engagement over vanity metrics. Listen in to hear why Justin focuses on revenue-per-client as a key business metric, how his fixed-fee model attracts high-net-worth clients while increasing asset consolidation, and how Justin weathered the challenging early months of business ownership on his path to success.
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Reaching next-generation clients at scale often requires rethinking how financial planning is built, priced, and delivered. This episode explores how a tech-forward, flat-fee model can expand access to planning, create a consistent client experience, and unlock new growth channels both through direct-to-consumer marketing and partnerships with other advisory firms.
Adam Dell is the founder of Domain Money, an RIA that operates virtually nationwide, serving 1,400 clients and expecting to generate approximately $10 million in revenue this year. Listen in as Adam shares how his firm built a financial planning software solution from the ground up to address the specific needs of his ideal clients. You'll learn how his firm uses AI to reduce administrative burden (while deciding what must be handled by an advisor, reviewed by a human, or automated entirely), as well as how a tech-forward, flat-fee experience attracts clients who may not fit traditional asset-based fee models.
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Search has changed—and so has the way advisory firms can earn visibility online. This episode explores how early investments in SEO can compound over time, how today’s “findability” now includes AI tools like ChatGPT, and what it takes to build a marketing engine that not only attracts the right prospects, but also supports sustainable firm growth for the long haul.
Helen Stephens is the founder of Aspen Wealth Management, an RIA based in Fort Worth, Texas, that oversees $670 million in assets under management for 342 client households. Listen in as Helen shares how her SEO strategy evolved alongside Google’s changing standards, from early location-and-service pages to consistently publishing high-quality content that demonstrates real expertise for her ideal-fit clients. We also discuss how that long-term commitment created a steady prospect pipeline that’s helped drive roughly 30% annual growth over the past five years, why it’s now paying off through leads coming from ChatGPT and other AI tools, and how Helen is executing an internal succession plan so that her firm remains independent for years to come.
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Scaling an advisory firm is often framed as a tradeoff - more clients and complexity in exchange for less time and flexibility. This episode explores how advisors can grow in a way that protects the lifestyle they want.
Andy Panko is the owner of Tenon Financial, an RIA based in Metuchen, New Jersey, that oversees $323 million in assets under management for 105 client households. He joins the show today to share why he chose to hire two additional advisors (even though his solo practice already met his lifestyle goals), as well as why he prioritized hiring mid-career professionals who could operate independently and stay for the long haul. We also discuss how his flat-fee model makes it easier to evaluate the time-and-revenue tradeoffs of adding clients, paying competitive salaries, and growing the team, as well as how he fuels a steady prospect flow through content creation, combats the loneliness of a small remote firm, and has adjusted his workload across seasons of life to be able to focus on his highest priorities.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/479
Most advisory marketing doesn’t fail because advisors aren’t trying—it fails because the funnel breaks in predictable places, leaving great content and good intentions without a clear path to consistent leads. This episode explores the most common “break points” in advisor marketing funnels, as well as what it takes to build a strategy that attracts the right prospects, communicates value quickly, and makes it easy for prospects to take the next step towards becoming a client.
Kendra Wright is the owner of Rebel Media Agency, a marketing firm based in Austin, Texas, that helps RIAs establish and execute clear marketing strategies. She joins us today to share the four ways she most often sees advisor marketing funnels break and how advisors can get what she calls "ideal client clarity" without necessarily forcing themselves into a single ultra-narrow niche. We also discuss how firms can choose a marketing channel that fits their client profile, why it's important for advisor content to be "targeted" in order to stand out, and how advisors can better move prospects from content to client.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/478
While Artificial intelligence (AI) tools offer financial advisors the prospect of greater operational efficiency, the real opportunity goes beyond saving time. This episode explores practical ways advisors can use AI not only to streamline workflows, but also to elevate the client experience with clearer insights, stronger storytelling, and deliverables that make a firm’s value instantly tangible to prospects and clients.
Christopher Haigh is the CEO of Iconoclastic Capital, an RIA based in Rochester, New York, that oversees approximately $60 million in assets under management for 120 client households. Listen in as Christopher shares how he’s adopted AI tools across his tech stack, including how he leverages AI inside planning, investment analysis, and tax software, as well as how he uses generalist AI tools to create and refine dynamic presentations that better communicate his firm’s brand and value proposition.
For show notes (including examples of the deliverables Christopher uses with prospects and clients) and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/477
Building an advisory firm that can outlast its founder often requires challenging decisions, especially for entrepreneurs who intentionally left prior partnerships to lead a firm on their own. This episode explores what it looks like to design succession on your own terms, balance growth with cultural clarity, and make partnership, hiring, and operating-system choices that can lead to sustainable growth.
Kathy Longo is the founder of Flourish Wealth Management, an RIA based in Edina, Minnesota, that oversees $455 million in assets under management for 163 client households. Listen in as Kathy shares why she chose to bring on a partner after previously leaving a partnership at a previous firm to build a business she could drive individually (while also applying lessons learned from her own experience), how she completed an acquisition while minimizing risk by bringing on clients in smaller tranches, and how she adjusted her firm's operational, hiring, and career development practices to build a firm that can thrive for the long haul.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/476
Tax planning has become an integral part of a comprehensive financial planning service offering and a way for advisors to offer hard-dollar value for their clients. In this episode, we explore how integrating tax preparation, proactive tax planning, and outside tax expertise can deepen client value, diversify revenue, and accelerate firm growth.
Erik Brenner is the CEO of Hilltop Wealth and Tax Solutions, an RIA based in Mishawaka, Indiana, overseeing approximately $600 million in AUM for 830 client households. Listen in as Erik shares how he doubled his firm’s AUM in three years in part by building a comprehensive, three-pronged tax strategy that combines in-house tax preparation, advisor-led tax planning analysis, and outsourced expertise for complex cases. We also discuss why he chose to launch a separate but integrated tax business that is profitable in its own right rather than treating tax prep as a loss leader, how in-person dinner seminars focused on retirement tax strategies drive nearly half of the firm’s new clients, and how taking a systematic approach has helped Erik's firm boost the number of Google and other online reviews it receives.
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Serving ultra-high-net-worth families requires more than technical expertise. It demands deep attention to detail, a strong supporting team, and a planning approach capable of navigating complex tax, estate, and investment structures. This episode explores what it really takes for advisors to successfully move 'upmarket' and support clients whose financial lives involve high stakes, fast-moving parts, and opportunities measured in millions.
Blair duQuesnay is a Lead Advisor at Ritholtz Wealth Management, an RIA based in New York City that oversees $6.5 billion in AUM for 3,900 households. Listen in as Blair shares how she transitioned from working with traditional wealth-management clients to serving ultra-high-net-worth families, and what she learned about applying advanced expertise in real-world scenarios where accuracy and timeliness are critical. You'll hear why flat-fee models often make more sense than AUM fees at the highest wealth levels, how she demonstrates multimillion-dollar planning value through sophisticated tax and estate strategies, and how UHNW clients’ biggest fear isn’t running out of money but making a catastrophic financial mistake. We also discuss how Blair manages impostor syndrome, the confidence that comes from having a strong team behind her, and why advisors can thrive with any client segment as long as they intentionally choose the work they enjoy most.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/474
Amidst speculation that Artificial Intelligence-powered software could take business from human advisors, some of the most meaningful work advisors do involves something software can’t replicate: deep human-to-human connection. This episode explores how life planning, active listening, and values-based discovery can help clients articulate what truly matters and achieve a sense of freedom that goes beyond financial outcomes.
George Kinder is the founder of the Kinder Institute of Life Planning, which trains financial advisors globally in fiduciary, client-centered planning. Listen in as George explains why life planning is fundamentally social, and why even the most advanced AI tools can’t replace the empathy, presence, and silence required to understand a client’s inner motivations. You'll learn how his EVOKE framework guides advisors through exploratory conversations, how the famous “three questions” help clients clarify what an ideal life looks like under different time horizons, and how confronting an illness himself led him to revisit his personal answers—and reshape his legacy with intention.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/473
Multigenerational planning isn’t just about retaining assets after a wealth transfer. When done well, it becomes a powerful way to elevate service, improve family communication, and drive meaningful growth today.
Carli Smith, founder of Signal Wealth Advisors, has built her practice in part by engaging entire family units—not just individual clients. In this episode, she explains how she navigates the tax and estate implications of inherited IRAs and taxable accounts, invites aging parents and adult children into collaborative planning conversations, and combines family assets to serve clients who might otherwise fall below her $2 million minimum. She also shares how strategic partnerships with estate planning attorneys and CPAs fueled a 70% increase in AUM in a single year, why nurturing client promoters leads to higher-quality referrals, and how she made the decision to leave her previous firm after it was acquired and start her own business.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/472
Building a firm that can thrive without its founders being constantly “on” requires far more than revenue growth. It takes intentional infrastructure, deep team trust, and long-term thinking. This episode explores how designing a business that doesn’t depend on any single individual can create both freedom for the founders and stability for clients.
Dennis Morton is the co-founder of Morton Brown Family Wealth, an RIA based in Allentown, Pennsylvania, overseeing $475 million in AUM for 275 households. Listen in as Dennis shares how his firm built the systems and team structure needed to allow both founders to take five-week sabbaticals without disrupting client service or slowing growth. We also discuss how socializing clients with the full advisory team strengthens their relationship with the firm as a whole, how strategic outsourcing and in-house specialization support scalability, and how hiring a dedicated marketing leader amplified his firm's brand visibility and lead flow.
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Clients often don’t fully realize the depth of value their advisory team provides—unless that value is clearly articulated and demonstrated throughout the year. This episode explores how a thoughtfully designed client service calendar can both strengthen client retention and increase new client conversions by making financial planning and tax strategy more visible and tangible.
Debra Taylor serves as Managing Partner of Carson Wealth Franklin Lakes, a practice within the RIA Carson Wealth that manages $500 million in AUM for 120 client households. Listen in as Debra shares how she built a seasonal client service calendar to clearly communicate her team’s year-round value, from tax letters and Roth conversion planning to estate strategy and investment deep dives. You'll hear how placing tax and distribution planning at the center of the client experience has generated measurable savings for her clients, how video explanations and structured service delivery reduce pressure during meetings, and how the calendar itself strengthens retention by helping clients see exactly what they’re paying for.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/470
Income-focused investing may seem old-school in a world dominated by total-return portfolios and model ETF allocations—but for some retirees, predictable cash flow is the key to peace of mind. This episode explores how a differentiated investment philosophy, rooted in individual income-producing securities, can become a powerful engine for both client trust and firm growth.
David Scranton is the CEO of Sound Income Strategies, an RIA based in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, overseeing $4 billion for 10,000 client households. Listen in as David shares how he constructs income-focused portfolios using combinations of what he calls "insured options" and "contractual securities", as well as high-dividend equity instruments with a focus on individual securities rather than mutual funds or ETFs. You'll learn how steady cash flow has led to greater client retention in down markets, David's “four keys” to attracting clients, and why narrowing his investment focus (and creating systems to implement it) has ultimately allowed him to serve more families.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/469
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Succession planning is rarely easy, but when life circumstances accelerate the timeline, it requires courage, clarity, and deep trust in your team. This episode explores how to manage an ownership and client transition with empathy, structure, and transparency.
KayDee Cole is the founder of Clarity Wealth Development, an RIA based in Corvallis, Oregon, that manages $200 million in AUM for 220 client households. Listen in as KayDee shares how she navigated an expedited succession plan after a cancer recurrence, selling equity to her COO through a seller-financed loan and preparing other team members for ownership. We also talk about the structured four-meeting process she created to transition clients to new advisors, how she coached her team through readiness conversations, and how transparent communication helped retain nearly all clients through the change.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/468
A key part of converting a contact or prospect into a client is an advisor's ability to explain what they offer and to show how they're the right person to solve their pain points. This episode explores how leading with empathy, asking the right questions, and storytelling can help financial advisors turn curiosity into client commitment.
Derek Kinney is the founder of Success for Advisors, a speaking and coaching firm that helps financial advisors communicate more effectively with prospects and clients. Listen in as Derek shares how he teaches advisors to open conversations with relatable “You know how...” statements that frame a prospect’s problem and position the advisor as the solution (without giving away the fix too soon). You'll learn how using a calm, deliberate speaking style can convey authority and trust, why his “million-dollar questions” uncover what clients really want, and how sharing the successes of current clients in similar situations can move prospects naturally toward engagement.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/467
Growth rarely comes without sacrifice—and for many advisory firm owners, that means making bold investments that might pinch margins today to create momentum for tomorrow. This episode explores how strategic hiring, branding, and compensation design can help accelerate growth while building a stronger, more scalable team.
Morgan Nichols is the CEO of LifeBranch Wealth Partners, an independent broker-dealer practice based in Grapevine, Texas, overseeing $630 million in AUM for 830 households. Listen in as Morgan shares how she doubled her firm’s size in just three and a half years in part by investing ahead of the curve, from hiring before capacity hits a breaking point to rebranding her firm to reflect a broader, growth-oriented vision. You'll learn how she designed clear career paths and compensation models that balance stability with opportunity, why she added a dedicated business development director to fuel new growth, and what helped her stay resilient through challenging growth stages.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/466
In an environment where there is no shortage of external acquirors, many RIA founders receive regular inbound inquiries from potential suitors. While the compensation from such deals (and the ability to shrink the administrative burdens they face) might be tempting, these offers can be weighed against a desire to grow independently and perhaps pass it on to the next generation.
Todd Pisarczyk is the founder of Momentous Wealth Management, an RIA based in Vancouver, Washington that manages $400 million in AUM for 400 client households. Listen in as Todd shares how he hit a turning point after reaching 350 clients and feeling trapped by success, then built a detailed spreadsheet (included in the show notes) to analyze whether to sell or keep his firm. We talk about how the numbers (and lifestyle considerations) ultimately led him to stay independent, the changes he made to scale sustainably, and how his definition of success has evolved from “more growth” to creating a legacy where others can thrive.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/465
Attracting and retaining top talent is one of the greatest challenges for growing advisory firms. As teams expand, success depends not just on recruiting, but on creating a culture where people feel valued, supported, and empowered to grow. This episode explores how intentional talent development and leadership coaching can help firms build thriving, future-ready teams.
Katie Calagui is the owner of Katie Calagui Consulting, a coaching and consulting firm that partners with financial planning leaders to strengthen their people systems and firm culture. Listen in as Katie shares how firms can move beyond traditional HR to invest in true people development, building training, mentorship, and advancement pathways that reduce turnover and develop next-generation advisors. You'll learn the key metrics that reveal whether your talent strategy is working, common leadership blind spots, and why the best coaches don’t give advice—they draw out the wisdom firm leaders already have.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/464
While many advisors seek client referrals, an intentional approach can lead to a steadier flow of leads. Today's guest breaks down how coaching clients on making introductions and small communication tweaks can turn satisfied clients into proactive advocates, driving steady, qualified opportunities week after week.
David Stevens is the President of Stevens Capital Partners, an RIA based in Omaha, Nebraska, managing $500 million in AUM for 475 households. Listen in as David shares how he’s built a thriving referral engine—receiving 10 to 15 client introductions per week—by teaching clients how to make meaningful connections instead of simply “asking for referrals.” You'll learn about the timing and phrasing he uses to normalize referrals during onboarding, how he uses text messaging in this process, and how his firm has adapted as it has added clients across a range of segments.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/463
Finding the right firm fit (and a well-defined path to partnership) can take time—and sometimes, the courage to start over. From wirehouse beginnings to RIA partnership, Maggie Rapplean’s journey shows how clarity, persistence, and the right environment can open the door to both ownership and balance.
Maggie is a Partner at Moneta Group, an RIA based in St. Louis, Missouri, where she oversees $250 million in AUM for 108 client households. Listen in as she shares how her career transitions have helped her find the equity path she was seeking. We talk about how she successfully took over a retiring advisor’s book of business, how she achieved a high retention rate in part by refreshing these clients' financial plans and offering deeper tax planning services, and how building her own team has helped her balance career growth with family life.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/462
Crafting a charitable giving strategy isn’t just about tax efficiency—it’s a way for clients to define the deeper purpose of their wealth. When advisors center generosity in both planning conversations and firm culture, they can strengthen relationships and attract values-driven clients. This episode explores how integrating charitable intent into financial planning not only expands impact, but also fuels practice growth.
Zac Larson is the co-founder of IntentGen Financial Partners, a hybrid advisory firm based in Naperville, Illinois, managing $550 million in AUM for 895 households. Listen in as Zac shares how he positions clients as “engaged partners” by focusing not just on net worth but on “net impact,” as well as how he uses working conversations about priorities and passions to uncover giving opportunities. You'll learn how IntentGen tracks and publishes the charitable donations it facilitates to build community trust, why the firm built its pod structure to expand advisor capacity, and how its flat-fee-plus-AUM model supports a wide range of engaged clients. Zac also reflects on hosting community fundraising events, offering personal touches like client phone calls, and why building around generosity has been key to attracting aligned clients and creating lasting impact.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/461